[ejabberd] MUC / JEP-0045

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Thu Jan 5 01:40:47 MSK 2006

Sergei Golovan wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:44:26PM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Sergei Golovan wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:45:24AM -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>> Just because you don't happen to like room locking doesn't mean you can 
>>>> ignore the spec. Clients have plenty of options to avoid room locking if 
>>>> they want to.
>>> I think that specs should be written carefully and defaults should be 
>>> chosen
>>> with least surprise for user in mind.
>> IMHO this is about the client developer, not the user. A smart client 
>> developer will hide complexity from the user.
> And what about the declared idea to keep all complexity at the server side and
> make client side as simple as possible?

Unfortunately, you weren't providing your wise feedback on the 
Standards-JIG list about this topic back in 2002-2003, and everyone else 
on the list missed it. Changing the room creation model at this very 
late stage in the development of the MUC protocol would probably make 
life *more* complex for client developers, not less.

However, feel free to bring this item up on the Standards-JIG list and 
we can discuss it.


Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
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